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Sign of the woman

The wonder or sign of the woman in heaven, Re 12:1-5, appears to be going to take place in the heaven as a astrological conjunction with the sun, planets and the moon and two constellations on Sept. 23, 2017. Actually, two wonders or signs are mentioned in the following verses. The second being the great red dragon.

Revelation 12:1-5 KJVS
[1] And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: [2] And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. [3] And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. [4] And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. [5] And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

A short video that covers the high points of the sign of the woman.

A link to a open source astronomy software program, that can be used to verify what is shown on the video, can be downloaded here.

A review and description of the databases used in the software which confirms the reliability and accuracy of the software.

Some theologians and biblical commentators say Re 12:1-5 represent Mary, and that the birth of the man child is the birth of our Lord. And that the great red dragon represents Satan using King Herod to kill the Lord as soon as he was born. Apostle John was given explicit instruction by the Lord on what he should write in the book of Revelation.

Revelation 1:11,19 KJVS
[11] Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. [19] Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;

It goes against what is written in the above verses, that Re 12:1-5 describes events in the past surrounding our Lord’s birth. John was instructed by the Lord on what he was to write in the book of Revelation. He was to write the things he had seen, things which are, and things which shall be hereafter. John was not old enough to have seen the events which transpired at the time of our Lord’s birth because he was younger than Jesus. Most agree the narrative of the book of Revelation to be linear and that would place the 12th chapter in the future or as the Lord states it, the hereafter. Other theologians and bible commentators think that the woman is Israel, or the church but is not. According to Apostle Paul, who was highly educated as a Pharisee, and inspired by the Holy Spirit to write the bulk of the New Testament epistles, the woman who gives birth to the promise seed is Jerusalem from above or Sion, Gal 4:22-28. Which agrees with Isa 66:6-8 and He 12:22.

Isaiah 66:6-8 KJVS
[6] A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the Lord that rendereth recompence to his enemies. [7] Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child. [8] Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

Notice that as soon as Zion travailed she brought forth the children of God, Ro 9:26, the body of Christ. Verse seven closely matches the language used in Rev 12:2, and supports the fact that Rev 12:1-5 is not pointing back in time, but ahead. I recently bought the Stellarium app for my iPad to confirm the information in the videos which I linked to at the beginning of this article. From my investigations using that software, the wonder or sign of the woman as described in Re 12:1, will appear in the sky on Sept. 23, 2017. What is commonly known as the rapture, is associated with the sign of the woman, Re 12:1-5, and the woman’s birth of the man child. If so, then the rapture or gathering of the saints unto the Lord, takes place at the sounding of the seventh trumpet. I base this conclusion largely on Re 10:7 and Re 11:15

Revelation 10:7 | ESV
7 but that in the days of the trumpet call to be sounded by the seventh angel, the mystery of God would be fulfilled, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.

Re 10:7 refers to when the actual event takes place a short time later in the book of Revelation.

Re 11:15 And the seventh messenger trumpets. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of this world became our Lord’s and His Christ’s, and He shall be reigning for the eons of the eons! Amen!”CLV

The mystery of God is Christ in you the hope of glory, Col 1:26&27, and that mystery will be finished, completed when the seventh angel sounds. Because at that point in time the body of Christ will join the head, Jesus Christ, and become His Christ. The large portion of YouTube videos that delve into the Revelation 12 sign, link this sign to a pre tribulation rapture. They present the book of Revelation as not being chronological, but with chapters or parts of chapters that they call parenthetical, which they claim overlap earlier chapters in the narrative. They have constructed timelines, charts and all this is based on their intensive study of the book of Revelation. With this theory, they place the 12th chapter of Revelation at the beginning of the tribulation. Thereby justifying a pre tribulation rapture. If one reads the definition of parenthesis you will see that the literary device is limited in scope. A online definition of Parenthesis as a literary device-“Parenthesis is a stylistic device that comes from a Greek word, meaning to place or alongside. Parenthesis is a qualifying or explanatory sentence, clause or word that writers insert into a paragraph or passage.” I did some study on the verses in the book of Revelation and came up with verses that disproved, in my mind, their claims regarding the wonder or sign of the woman of Re 12:1-5, being the pre tribulation rapture of the church. I covered Re 10:7 above, which to me is very persuasive at setting the rapture of the body of Christ at the sounding of the seventh trumpet. Additionally Re 8:13 presents a linear series of events, connected to three trumpet and three woes, that make the narrative of the 8th to 12th chapters of Revelation linear in regards to chronology.

Revelation 8:13 KJVS
[13] And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!
Let’s look at where these three woes occur in the narrative of the book of Revelation.

Revelation 9:11-12 KJVS
[11] And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. [12] One woe is past; and , behold, there come two woes more hereafter.
Revelation 11:13-14 KJVS
[13] And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. [14] The second woe is past; and , behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
Revelation 12:12 KJVS
[12] Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

There is a continuation of a theme of the three woes which occur with the last three Trumpets that sound, 5-7, that unfolds in a linear fashion from the 8th, though the 9th, 11th and 12th chapters. So to be honest I can’t see how this theory makes sense based on scripture. In order for the wonder or sign of the woman, Re 12:1-5, to be at the beginning of the tribulation, there would have to be a 3 1/2 year passage of time between Re 12:5 and Re 12:12. Which would run counter to Re 11:14, which states the third woe comes quickly. At this juncture of time, middle of March, I am concerned that a mid Tribulation rapture taking place about six months from now, would require a rapid series of events to start taking place. The conjunction of the moon, Jupiter, sun and the three wandering stars that are planets with Virgo and Leo on 9/23/2017 matches the description given in Re 12:1&2 so exact, it is hard to dismiss. But the lack of two witnesses giving their testimony in Jerusalem is troubling among other things. I guess it is a matter of wait and see. A couple nights ago I was playing around with the Stellarium app. I input the Sept. 23: 2017 date, and added the simulated land that forms the horizon and the sign of the woman was below the horizon in my location at that time of night. So I thought to try viewing the constellations from a different location. And then I thought, why not Israel. So I chose for the location Jerusalem in Israel, and was surprised it was one of the stored locations in the program. I looked for the Virgo constellation and panned the view around a bit, and due east came into view. The sun is just below the horizon illuminating the head of Virgo. In the app you can add or remove the simple drawn image representations of the various constellations which appear over the stars of the constellations. And the constellation Leo the lion, with the 12 crowning stars was clearly visible above her head, just at dawn. Right at due east. Of course Venus is known as the day star and is one of the planets that completes the crown of 12 stars. Fittingly enough the brightest of all the stars in the twelve star crown. The time when I saw this was around 22 07 10, in the time field setting in the software. Two scriptures came to mind, so I looked them up with my bible app. I felt the Spirit of the Lord move on me as I read them.

Matthew 24:27 KJVS
[27] For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
2 Peter 1:19 KJVS
[19] We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

It occurs to me that scriptures in Daniel may be relevant on the recent ability of being able to predict this future sign in the heavens taking place on a specific date using astronomy software. Which of course was impossible before computers were invented.

Daniel 12:2-4 KJVS
[2] And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. [3] And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. [4] But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

It is only with the increase of knowledge in computers and software technologies, that this particular alignment of planets, the sun and moon in conjunction with the two constellations was discovered. This sign may speak of troubling and chaotic times ahead. Since great suffering is on the horizon for the seed of the woman. I think it is fitting that this website’s main subject matter, is the role suffering plays in being conformed to the image of Christ.

Blessed us with all spiritual blessings

Ephesians 1:3 KJVS
[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Most Christians fail to understand what the blessings in Jesus Christ are in the New Testament. The blessings are largely spiritual rather than material blessings, 1 Ti 6:5-11. Perhaps this is due to the Old Testament influence on modern Christian theology. A couple verses in Acts makes the nature of New Testament blessings in Christ more apparent.

Acts 3:25-26 KJVS
[25] Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. [26] Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

A person might wonder exactly how this “being turned away from our iniquities” comes about in our lives? It comes about through the Spirit of God working in our lives, the Spirit that makes holy.

Galatians 3:14 KJVS
[14] That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

It is not at all surprising, that the above verse is from the epistle of Galatians. Apostle Paul wrote that epistle to counteract the teachings of some Jews that came to that church, teaching that Gentile Christians had to be circumcised and observe the law of Moses in order to be justified. Paul in the second chapter sets the record straight.

Galatians 2:16 KJVS
[16] Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Galatians covers a lot of theological ground that most Christians fail to understand. There are two aspects to be understood in regards to receiving the Holy Spirit. Receiving the Holy Spirit places you into the body of Christ, Ga 3:16&29, and makes you heir of the promises God made to Abraham. The blessings of Abraham, is receiving the Holy Spirit which turns us away from our iniquities throughout a life of faith. If I were asked to sum up the book of Galatians, using one scripture verse from that epistle, it would be this verse.

Galatians 3:3 KJVS
[3] Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

Notice the word “begin” in the above verse. The inherent weakness of the flesh, gives sin the power over us in our lives, Ro 7:19&20, Ro 8:3, and it is only through the agency of the Holy Spirit/Holy Ghost that we are justified by grace, Ro 3:24. how we are justified by grace is two fold. God changes our heart and inner natures by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Ghost, Titus 3:5-7. Plus by God teaching/disciplining/chastising us, Titus 2:11&12, He 10:6. This is judgments by God aimed at correcting our behavior.

1 Corinthians 11:31-32 KJVS
[31] For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. [32] But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

Chastisements are judgment by God, and are a function of grace working in our lives. This is all part and parcel of the spiritual blessings we receive in Christ. Four times in the epistle of Ephesians the phrase “heavenly places” is used. There is a popular Christian pop song where the phrase is used in a future tense. Possibly giving lip service to a doctrine circling the Internet regarding these “heavenly places”in Christ. In short it suggests that after the Kingdom of God is established in this earth, the Gentile members of the body of Christ will sit in heavenly places in Christ, and the work they do in the thousand year kingdom of God will be in involved in the heavenly places. At least that is what I think the doctrine suggests. This group also makes the claim there are two gospels, one for the Hebrews and one for the Gentiles. I looked into the two gospel doctrine closely and found it flew in the face of NT scriptures. I wrote a previous post dealing with this doctrine in light of NT scriptures. In regards to the “heavenly places” interpretation, the phrase heavenly places appears only four times in the NT, all the verses are in the epistle of Ephesians. We see that Christ sits at the right hand of God in heavenly places, Eph 1:20. And that as a member of the body of Christ, we presently sit in heavenly places “in Christ”. It is always good to read scripture in context.

Ephesians 2:5-9 KJVS
[5] Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) [6] And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: [7] That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. [8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] Not of works, lest any man should boast.

As you can clearly see we presently sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus, and this allows us access to the throne of grace. There are positive and negative aspect associated with sitting in the heavenly places in Christ. We can come before the throne of grace and ask for mercy and grace to help us in times of need, He 4:16. The negative aspects associated with sitting in the heavenly places in Christ, as I briefly mentioned before, are that we can be judged if we do not ask for forgiveness and walk after the flesh, Ro 8:1. Largely because we are viewed as dead in Christ.

Romans 6:3 KJVS
[3] Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Hebrews 9:27-28 KJVS
[27] And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: [28] So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

1 Peter 4:17 KJVS
[17] For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

It is important that we realize we are subject to judgment by the Lord in order to eradicate sin in our lives and bring about holiness. This judgment can and does take place if we don’t judge ourselves.

1 Corinthians 11:28-32 KJVS
[28] But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. [29] For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. [30] For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. [31] For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. [32] But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

As you can see, being chastened by God is a result of being judged by God and is aimed towards amending our behavior in order to instill fruit of the Spirit and holiness.

Hebrews 12:6-7,10-11 KJVS
[6] For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. [7] If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? [10] For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. [11] Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

Another aspect directly related to sitting in heavenly places in Christ and being judged, is that Satan can accuse the members of the body of Christ of sinful behavior. Notice these verses in Revelation.

Revelation 12:10 KJVS
[10] And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Satan is known as the adversary and it is a role I suspect that God assigned to him, based on chance, before the world began. Investigate the day of atonement ceremony that took place once a year during the law of Moses. Two sacrificial lambs were taken and due to the drawing of colored stones, it was determined which one was the sin sacrifice lamb and which one was led off into the wilderness. Satan or the devil serves a necessary function in the plan and purpose of God.

1 Peter 5:8 KJVS
[8] Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

The following is the Strong’s Concordance definition for the Greek word translated into the English word adversary.

Strong’s Number
Original Word
Transliterated Word
Phonetic Spelling
Parts of Speech
Noun Masculine
Strong’s Definition
From G473 and G1349; an opponent (in a lawsuit); specifically Satan (as the arch enemy): – adversary.
Thayer’s Definition
an opponent in a suit of law
an adversary, enemy

Did not the Spirit lead Jesus into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil? In the Lord’s Prayer do we not pray to God to lead us not into temptation? Read the first two chapters of the book of Job sometime and observe the interplay between God and the devil. The following scriptures in Luke, with a little mental extrapolation, offers keen insight into what takes place at the throne of grace.

Luke 12:57-58 KJVS
[57] Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right? [58] When thou goest with thine adversary to the magistrate, as thou art in the way, give diligence that thou mayest be delivered from him; lest he hale thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and the officer cast thee into prison.

The throne of grace is also the judgment seat, imagine Jesus sitting on this throne. The adversary, the devil, accuses you of sin, sin that you have not asked forgiveness for, and too stubborn or full of pride to give up. Satan, rightfully so, levels a charge against you and forces the Lord’s hand to judge you. For that reason I try and remember to pray the perfect prayer, the Lord’s Prayer, once a day for this reason. Satan may be even given leave to torment you, or even make you sick or take your life if you do not seek mercy and grace at the throne of grace.

1 Corinthians 11:30-32 KJVS
[30] For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. [31] For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. [32] But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

Although the above verse is directly related to eating and drinking the body of Christ unworthily, by offending another member of the body of Christ. The spiritual president holds true towards long term unconfessed sin and sin in general. Because God chastises and scourges the sons he loves, He 12:6.